2014 Week 7: Oceanside, Carroll On Move

Carroll has Pirates rolling again.

Carroll has Pirates rolling again.

The opponents and the milestones continue to pass for John Carroll and his Oceanside Pirates.

The 42-16 victory over Mission Hills left the Pirates with a 6-0 record and within shouting distance of an unbeaten, 10-0 regular season.

Herb Meyer doesn’t hear shouts or footsteps, but Carroll’s 240th career victory moved the Oceanside coach past Point Loma’s Bennie Edens for No. 2 all-time in San Diego County.

Meyer, who coached 45 seasons at Oceanside and El Camino (1959-2003), will continue to hold sway for at least more several years with 339 wins.

Carroll, in his 26th season, became head coach at Oceanside in 1989, thirteen years after Meyer left to begin the El Camino program.

Meanwhile, Cathedral’s Sean Doyle solidified his No. 14 position with the 151st victory of his career and Christian’s Matt Oliver went by Eastlake’s John McFadden into 28th with Oliver’s 121st win.

11 OR 8?

I saw the Mountain Empire-Army-Navy  score and did a double take, so I emailed Redhawks coach  Bill Dobson.

I asked Dobson if the Redhawks and Army-Navy had a personnel shortage and  were forced to drop  from 11-man to an 8-man game last week.

There were 11 on each side, Dobson emailed me back this morning.

“The points were being scored about as fast as the wind blows during a Santa Ana out here,” said Dobson.  “Both teams were banging their heads on the scoreboard.”

Mountain EmireMountain Empire’s 66-58 victory represents the second highest combined point total for any 11-man game involving San Diego County teams.

The highest combined score is 137.  San Diego had 130 of those points against Army-Navy in 1920.

Mountain Empire went with its running game, rushing 62 times for 619 yards and a 10-yard average.  The Redhawks were 0-2 passing.

Senior Josh Lee earned a day off, rushing 32 times for 381 yards, 6 touchdowns, and three, two-point conversions. Lee’s running mate, senior Jacob Wilson had 217 yards rushing, two touchdowns and  two, two-point conversions.

Even in eight-man games, the point total has been bettered only 12 times:

Year Winner Loser Score
2008 St. Joseph Lutheran @Grossmont College 96-74 (170)
2011 Classical Capistrano Valley Christian 82-67 (149)
2004 Borrego Springs San Diego Jewish 92-52 (144)
1984 Lutheran Midway Baptist 90-46 (136)
2008 Christian Life Lutheran 84-52 (136)
2000 Santa Fe Christian Army-Navy 77-55 (132)
2008 Christian Life St. Joseph 83-48 (131)
2009 Christian Life St. Joseph 74-56 (130)
1994 Midway Baptist Salton City West Shores 76-50 (126)
1994 Midway Baptist Borrego Springs 86-40 (126)
2013 San Pasqual Academy Wildomar California Lutheran 64-62 (126)
2007 Maranatha Rancho Mirage Maywood-Palm Valley 66-58 (124)


A field goal and length of the field interception for a touchdown gave El Camino a 9-5 victory over La Costa Canyon, which scored on a safety and field goal.

There had been one other 9-5 game involving a San Diego County team.  San Diego defeated Pasadena by that score in 1906.

The 9-5 score of 1906 was representative of the era.  From 1897-1912 touchdowns counted as five points.  From 1904-09, field goals counted as four points.

It seems safe to say the Hilltoppers scored a touchdown and field goal and Pasadena scored a touchdown.


Steele Canyon crashed in a 42-0 loss to Helix, leaving nine teams with spotless records: 

Team Record Best Start Year
Borrego Springs 7-0 7-0 2014
El Capitan 6-0 11-0 2006
Calexico Vincent Memorial 6-0 9-0 2002
Christian 6-0 9-0 2008
Oceanside 6-0 14-0 2009
Orange Glen 6-0 12-0 1988
San Marcos 6-0 9-0 1966
Sweetwater 6-0 13-0 1983
The Bishop’s 6-0 14-0 2010


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